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So I had my first cult experience. It was so surreal. I went to a nearby yoga center called Dahn Yoga Center thinking it was just a yoga studio and maybe I could sign up for a package. When I called he (Mu Wa) said he needed to do an energy consultation and that was $25. It included a massage so I think I heard that and didn’t care about anything else. It was new agey and fruity (reading chakras,etc) but some yogis are like that so I let it go.

After the fantastic rubdown he totally tried to brainwash me and told me my Lupus was because my mind and body weren’t connecting and there were “Blockages”. They could heal me through their “program”. I laughed. Seriously. The whole thing was $1900 and he had me trapped in this little room talking about how I really needed this and my body was crying out in pain. SO funny. He kept pressuring me and I kept saying “I’m not making any decisions tonight.” The guy was relentless. It was so odd. Then he started bringing the price down. “Well, what about $1300. Will you pay that?” Very nicely I kept saying “I’m not buying anything tonight” I finally just stood up and held my coat by the door. He huffed a little and then opened the door. When I got out in the lobby, the class that was in session was letting out. (I could hear them grunting and yelling through the walls). It was very “One flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest” in that they were all wearing white faux karate outfits with their names scrawled in black marker across their chests. They were sizing me up and I was sizing them up. I know I sound like a critical bitch but each person looked like a misfit. This Dahn Studio was the place where they felt validated and loved and accepted. The whole thing was delightfully bizarre. It was actually a nice break from the norm. At least now I can say it happened to me! I researched when I got home and found this web site. Bizarre indeed. http://www.rickross.com/reference/dti/dtivisitor.html

On a completely different non-cult note I would like to state yet another reason why I adore my husband. He went to the grocery last night and I asked him to pick up a tube of Maybelline Great Lash mascara, half expecting him to not be able to find it or to come home with the wrong tube. Not only did he come home with the exact tube but he had a whole thought process about it. He said “Well, I looked at the waterproof one but didn’t get that one because I know you take your makeup off with soap and water, so that wouldn’t work”. Yes, my babies’ daddy thought about mascara and how I take it off while standing in the aisle at the grocery. That one comment endeared me to him more than I already am. He is in a league of his own.

posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 1:14 PM

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# re: Cult of Personality
Fruity Nut
Posted @ 3/16/2006 7:34 AM
I've seen people have 100% turn around in immunity related diseased like Lupus and RA through mind body training. It's too bad you're too afraid to see how your negativity is affecting your health because it will be your doom. Your posting is so rife with hatred, not just for Dahn but for all the people you judge ("fruity" yogis, etc). I can see that you are a judgement machine, but saddly each judgement you make comes back to you and degrades your body and soul. I also predict that, if you don't change, your marriage will also become misery for you, too, because no one can be this ego-centric and have a lasting, happy relationship. You will hate me for saying this now, but ten years from now, remember that I wrote this.
# re: Cult of Personality
Emily
Posted @ 3/16/2006 9:48 AM
Dear Fruity Nut,

You obviously work for or are involved with Dahn Yoga Center in some way otherwise you wouldn't have gotten your panties in a wad and felt the need to post a comment. I find it amusing that you choose to judge me while telling me I'm judgmental. Good Work. I also find it curious, Fruity Nut, that even though you have all sorts of didactic spewings for me you are cowardly enough not to use your real name.
You know nothing about me or my life. In ten years remember that I wrote this.and forward it on to 10 friends and for good luck.

Signed,
Judgment Machine
# re: Cult of Personality
Chris B
Posted @ 4/3/2006 7:39 AM
In and of itself, a cult is not necesarily a bad thing. The military uses every brain washing method known to man during basic training. I have several (ex-) friends that are not allowed to associate with me because I haven't "taken Jesus Christ as my own personal savior". And that is a pretty main-stream Baptist church. I wish them well, and deplore their choices. These are cults, but they are very up-front about it.
Dahn Yoga, on the other hand, has a primary purpose of removing your control of your own life. It is blatantly dishonest about it. Extracting your money and turning you into a propaganda outlet is their end goal.
For another example of a deceitful yet innocent seeming cult, look at Thought Field Therapy.
# re: Cult of Personality
Me
Posted @ 4/10/2006 2:29 PM
You don't even know of what you speak of. I love fruit and veggies - I don't kill to sustain my own life - in any way....
# re: Cult of Personality
David J
Posted @ 4/30/2006 7:25 PM
I have a had some good experiances with Dahn Yoga but I am concerned. My mother is 72 and has been taking the classes for about 8 months. She looks great and is much happier. I went to the have fun and stretch classes with her a few times. I see that this stuff is helping people. She tells me that the instructors disappear one day without saying good bye and never come back. Are they using them for human sacrifice up on a vortex in Sedona? I'm just kidding but my Mom also told me that the instructors are not aloud to socialize with students or anyone outside the Dahn group. They appear to be trapped with no way out. So far they have not asked her for any money except for the classes that she takes. The program is way cheaper than what I pay for classes. What gives? This is a strange organization with little vibrating brains they hold in their hands. Maybe they know something I don't know. They will wish they were never born if they screw with my MOM! Very bad Karma!
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# re: Cult of Personality
Dahntrulybites
Posted @ 5/8/2007 9:04 PM
Many people believe Dahn Yoga to be a manipluative, philosophically immature, and money hungry cult. The entire notion of Dahn Yoga is based on historical revisionism and lies. Korea cannot claim to be a home for yoga, nor the internal cultivation arts. The "grandmaster" is really an uneducated Korean racist, a man who has ruined countless lives in his quest for money. His criminal organization relies on heavy coercion and brainwashing, and it continues to prey on unsuspecting victims to this very day.
# re: Cult of Personality
Jael
Posted @ 2/17/2009 9:10 PM

I agree. I had an experience today. I went in to look at their books and got a "healing massage" on sale for $10. Then he pressured me relentlessly to buy classes and/or consultations. I am embarrassed to say I ended up paying for another "healing massage" in advance, for $45 dollars (that was the "bargain"). I will not go for it, I do not want his hands on me. Those people are all about money, and I am far more capable of interpreting energies than he did in his final "diagnostic".

As far as I am concerned, Dahn Yoga needs to go out of business for the well being of humanity.
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SB
Posted @ 4/1/2009 12:10 PM
I know it throws people off when they are sold a package right off the bat and when they join something that has some fanatics in there but my experience with Dahn Yoga is as follows: we live in Los Angeles so we are skeptical of everything as it is. My mom has MS and everyone, even doctors, recommeded she take yoga classes, so she signed up at a local Dahn Yoga facility. We have seen significant changes in her walking, coordination, breathing and much more. She has only paid a couple thousand for a lifetime membership and will never have to pay again for as long as she goes. I think all this stuff is like going to church, we can believe in God and it works in our lives but everyone now and then you may drop by a different congregation and find them a bit cooky, so would that make all churches and Christianity bad?
# re: Cult of Personality
A
Posted @ 5/12/2009 10:56 AM
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# re: Cult of Personality
anti Dahn
Posted @ 6/28/2009 5:37 PM
The classes themselves are good however I believe the back-office side of this organization is a mind controlling cult that is only interested in getting money from its members.

I have a loved one in this group and we have been trying to get her out. In less than a year she has gone $20k into debt because of this wonderful place. Even though this is a multi million dollar FOR PROFIT organization that brings in millions in profit to Ilchi Lee; she works there for a little over minimum wage, is forced to work hours that she isn't paid for, she doesn't get paid time off, she is basically the center master's slave for whatever they want her to do, she has to pay for all her travel and training costs even though it is supposed to be making her a better employee (real companies pay for their employees), and she doesn't have health insurance because she can't afford it. Talking to the masters doesn't make a difference, they are all brainwashed into believing that the ends justifies the means. I pleaded with them to stop my loved one from going on trips because she is addicted and it is killing her financially, they didn't care and have done NOTHING to stop her. In some cases they even borrowed her money to enable her (in process of filing complaint w Attorney General's office since this is a predatory business practice).

Our family is trying hard to get her out of this cult. Dahn Yoga is the most important thing in her life. She gave up her lifelong relgious beliefs for the words of a 70 year old Korean guy Ilchi Lee, the cult's leader. If you read his scripture books he proclaims himself to be a king and his believers should follow him if they want to get to heaven. Some members' families have had to hire professional therapists who specialize in cults or stage interventions in order to get them out. What kind of "healthy" organization requires that?

There was a lawsuit filed last month against this money hungry organization. Look it up and read the contents of the claim. Two of the members were from Chicago and were DIE HARD members a year ago. Scary stuff!! Yes some of the classes can be reasonable, but they push you into other classes, energy checkups, and workshops at hundreds of dollars each. They push some people into $5k, $10k, and $20k master programs and don't care how they pay for it. My loved one lies, begs, borrows, and steals in order to go on trips for this organization.

Dahn uses classic mind control techniques, especially during retreats. Sleep deprivation, food deprivation, physical exhaustion, and repetitive lecturing of the cults teachings. "Love bombing" is a method of making people feel like they are welcomed and part of the group. Ever wonder why Dahn employees are always hugging and saying they love you. Disassociation with their real names and lives by adding Korean words to their names or replacing their names with Korean words. Creating a unique language that outsiders wouldn't understand; Dahn combines English and Korean words into their own little language.

I was at a Tao lecture when a Dahn master told us if we wanted to be really dedicated Dahn members that we would have to remove people from our lives that we had attachments to like boyfriends and girlfriends. However it was ok for us to have intimate moments if we wanted to. If I removed all the other people from my life that loved and cared for me then who is left, other than Dahn people?? Masters work a ton of hours and according to the regional master in this area are not allowed to have relationships with members but they can with each other. This helps create an even closer knit group of masters, all devoted to the same cause. MAKE ILCHI LEE RICH!! They have a "vision" for their center as to how much profit they need to bring in, you'll notice their pushiness gets worse as the month comes to an end. You'll get a lot of pressure about having to sign up for this deal by the end of the month.

If you are strong enough to just go to the classes and not get involved with the other stuff then go for it. If you have problems in your life they will get you to tell them what it is and then they will use that to their advantage to get you to sign up for everything they can convince you will help you. Before you know it you'll be out thousands of dollars. ABC 15 in Arizona, CBS in Boston, CBS in Chicago, Fox Chicago, and CBS in San Francisco have all done investigative reports on this organization.

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